This
section is dedicated to YOU, the ones who use these
eMachines day in and day out, who go and find the latest
drivers, look for the latest upgrades, who try to make
their machine perform at its best. The following posts
are comments, from end users, on what you have found out
that has worked for you. Since these posts are end user
contributions, use the info contained here at your own
risk.
My Upgrade of the
eMonster 600 - The Journey begins!!
01.01.02
I actually started this
about a year ago (few months after buying the system)
when I upgraded to a Radeon 32MB video card, when the
prices first started falling, I think I got it for 79
dollars or so, well that was easy pop out the standard
8mb TNT AGP board that came with the system and pop in
the new one. I wish I had waited, but no, I soon swapped
out the 32mb Radeon for the 64MB DDR now called the
Radeon 7200. But now with the GeForce's coming way down
in price, I should have waited again. I also dropped in
a 128MB Stick of Memory about the same time, no big
deal...
I partitioned the hard drive into four drives, Main
(5GB), Games(10GB), Archive(3GB) and
Video/Pictures/etc(1GB)
About a month ago, I found this neat little web site
(during a search for divers) that lead me here eMachines
Help Site (http://e4all.freeservers.com) which had a
link to the chat group on yahoo called eMachine
Upgraders (http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/emachineupgraders).
Reading all these messages gave me the bug, to do more!!
Gathering all the pieces - Where to start, first thing I
did was a search for the various file / current hardware
updates. The only thing that I successfully upgraded was
the Modem Master modem, which uses the Agere/Lucent
chipset and is actually a decent win-modem. I still
prefer a hardware modem, but since I use DirecPC Two Way
its not used that much... It is important to defrag and
clean up, back up the PC prior to doing a major
overhaul, that way you have a fully stable and good
running machine to start with. I deleted a bunch of no
longer used program and such. I had the system running
good!!
Well to start I upgraded the memory again, learning a
lot on the way (see first article I wrote). Yes, you can
upgrade the monsters to 512MB, if you wish but I am
running 384MB physical and 200MB as a swapfile and all
is well. So Best Buy had the 256MB/PC133 on sale for
$19.95 with a rebate of $7.00 if you actually get it.
Next I picked up Windows XP and installed it as a dual
boot system placing XP where I had originally had my
Archive's, just to ensure that it would run for later
upgrades and when I buy a second license. I actually
installed / activated XP on the sons eTower 600is
downstairs. You will understand why later...
So far so good, next I spent some time researching mobo
manuals, PIII documentation, asking lots of questions
from various places, and finding out that no one here
carries Slot 1 CPU's. Thinking maybe this is not a good
idea, I finally decided on a course of action. I would
go with a new power supply, CPU - PIII 850, and hard
drive - 40GB/7200rpm. Well to make a long story short
after researching prices it changed. All to be retrieved
by online sources!!
I ordered the power supply first, there are 4 or 5
places that you can get power supply's for eMachines,
most have the same standard fan that is currently used
on the stock ilssan PS, but I found two places that had
options for a quieter ball bearing fan, and 150 watt
model. Cicro Tech (http://www.circotech.com/power.htm)
has the upgraded model for $35.00 which is a great
price. I actual ordered two since I will eventually
upgrade the system downstairs as well.
Next, I won two auctions on ebay for a upgraded CPU
heatsink w/3 fans and hard drive fans (can never have
enough cooling eh) total price shipped was around
$28.00, locally these would have set me back about
$35.00.
Next, I tried to order a second license for XP via MS
web site only to get the item is not available, huh, a
number is not available, interesting... I am still
awaiting a reply on this from MS.
Well, after that I ordered a PIII 1GHz CPU - 100MHz Bus
256KB Coppermine SECC2 *Retail Box* 3 YR Warranty -
Manuf. P/N: BX80526H1000256 and IBM 40GB Deskstar 60GXP
Ultra ATA/100 8.5ms 2MB 7200rpm Hard Drive. Total was
$343.00 - Free UPS Ground Shipping promo as well from
McGlen.Com (http://www.mcglen.com) Basically the 1 Ghz
CPU was 229, I saw prices from 212 - 299 for the slot 1,
but the drive was only 114, and that was about the best
I could find.. Shipping ranged from 15 -27 dollars at
most places I looked. Prices for the PIII 850 ranged
from 129 - 199 if you are looking for upgrade that is
not as aggressive. OEM CPU's are about 5-10 dollars less
but most only have a 1 - 3 month warranty from the date
of purchase, read the fine print on restocking fees and
such as well.
So far so good, around $500.00 (add 100 for a new GForce
400MX 64MB if you want) on the emonster 600. A machine
that should run circles around the newer emachines that
you may or may not get that rebate with a final price of
399.00 (Celeron 900) - 799.00 (PIIII 1.5GHz). I am sure
if I spent more time looking I could have found better
deals. Did I really need the extra fans, new hard drive,
probably not but if you are gonna do it, might as well
go for it!! I also have the satisfaction of doing this
and tweaking the system, and the upgrade of the etower
600is will be much cheaper since the 20GB drive I
currently have in the monster will end up supplementing
the 10GB in the tower, and socket 370 cpu's can be had
for under $120...
Installing the goodies - The first things that arrived
on my doorstep was the cpu and drive cooler. Looking at
the drive cooler it might take some modification to get
it to fit.. Later that evening the UPS guy showed up
with the power supplies. Opening the box, and there were
two new shiny power supplies made by SPI. They are exact
replacements, but are 150 W and use ball bearing fans
versus the sleeved stock fans on the Ilssan. Well I did
a modification to the new PS wiring, basically I removed
all the wire zip ties, then took some clear 1/4 inch
automotive wiring tubing and wrapped all the wires
putting zip ties at the ends. This makes for nice neat
plugs for all the drives and mobo plug. Installing the
power supply took about 20 minutes and did not cause any
problems, everything fit fine. I powered up the machine
and wow that BB fan is quiet compared to the old one. It
even seems like the standard cpu fan makes more noise
than the PS fan. Not bad for $35 buck!! Well the next
morning I received a email from McGlen (about 36 hours
after ordering) saying the remaining items had been
shipped. UPS tracking showed the package had left San
Gabriel, Ca enroute to Denver, CO. Upon arrival I opened
up the cpu and damn if it don't have the new style cpu
fan on there, they are a pain to get off. Oh well maybe
later, ok well I popped out the old cpu and in goes the
new. Ahh well, here goes nothing powered up waiting for
the beeps.... Ahhh system posts fine, showing a Pentium
III and starts to boot into windows no problems, quick
run of sandra shows a
PIII 1002 MHZ 100Mhz FSB 256K L2 full speed...
MSI shows; Genuine Intel x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 6
Piece of cake, but the system still is slagging it seems
all though benchmarks are rating up there. Ok I went to
install the hard drive, with IBM's disk utility it was
easy, I partitioned up the drive and copied my old drive
over and was set to go. Ahh here we go, I noticed a bit
of speed gain here going from the older IDE to UDMA 33,
7200 rpm. Next step will be to flash the board once I
have a new motherboard in hand, and do some testing to
see what it improves.
Basic online tests show also show a good jump from 292
to 538 (PC world)
Which is almost as fast as some low end P4's...
Bottomline - Was it worth it, as a learning experience
yes, price NO!! If I were to do it again, I would go
with a newer motherboard, and Socket 370 PIII CPU.
I do plan on getting a newer more current motherboard
and such for this CPU, then head off to XP Land. And I
also plan a completely different route for the 600IS
since XP is already installed hehehehe lets see how far
I can stretch the activation routine…
Grizz
Memory Explanation
Most later version emachines using Anaheim / Napoli
mobo's and probably others...
Confusion sets in when "the big E" says your machine is
not capable of doing above 256MB
NOT TRUE!!
In fact you are capable of going to 512 MB - if you are
running windows 98/SE/ME, you don't and probably wont
need much more the 256 MB (but that's another lesson).
So how is this possible, well lets look at a DIMM/SIMM
confusion itself, most of these TriGem motherboards were
in development/production when DIMM Sticks came about so
the written knowledge about things was based on SIMM
technology / theory.
SIMM - memory chips on one side of the stick
DIMM - memory chips on both sides of the stick
Basically your board has 2 DIMM slots, Okay each slot is
actually broken up into two banks, one for each side of
the DIMM stick. When originally written the max
DIMM stick was 128MB or 64MB on each side, i.e. two
slots = 4 banks (64MBea) = 256MB
Now if you actually read the mobo manuals you will soon
figure out that in actuality what the engineers are
trying to say is that each bank is limited to 128MB, not
each slot so each slot can handle a 256MB Stick.
How does the machine handle this, well the bios comes
into play. It is written that the bios identifies type,
size, and speed of the memory. Yes it does for any stick
128MB and below, since that was the standard a few years
ago. It will tell you who makes it and such, if you put
in a 256MB stick it will not give the information, but
you should see 128MB per bank
Right now my eMonster has a 256MB / 133 Stick in slot 1
and a 128MB / 133 Stick in Slot 2. When I run the saudra
program I show:
< System Mainboard >
Manufacturer: TriGem Computer Inc.
MP Support: No
Model: NAPOLI
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: 00000000
< System Memory Summary >
Total System Memory: 495MB
Total Physical Memory: 383MB
Maximum Page File: 200MB
< Memory Controller >
Error Detection Method: 32-bit ECC
Error Correction Capability: 1-bit
Supported/Current Memory Interleave: 1 way / 1 way
Number of Memory Slots: 2
Maximum Installable Memory: 256MB
Maximum Module Size: 128MB
Supported SDRAM Speeds: PC66, PC100
Supported Memory Types: DIMM, SDRAM
Supported Memory Voltages: 3.3V
< Physical/BIOS Memory Banks >
Micron-1 (RASL-0 RASL-0): 128MB DIMM single-bank
< Logical/Chipset Memory Banks >
Bank 0 Setting: 128MB SDRAM 8-1-1-1R 6-1-1-1W 3-2-2CL
Bank 1 Setting: 128MB SDRAM 8-1-1-1R 6-1-1-1W 3-2-2CL
Bank 2 Setting: 128MB SDRAM 8-1-1-1R 6-1-1-1W 3-2-2CL
Bus Speed: 1x 100MHz (100MHz data rate)
Bus Multiplier: 1/1x
Refresh Rate: 15.60µs
Power Down Mode: No
Fixed Hole Present: No
What this all means... The bios only tells what its been
programmed to tell i.e. look at the memory controller
info and the Bios Memory bank. Now look at the actual
banks and you see that in fact the system sees three
banks of 128MB or 384MB. But Grizz, your Physical Memory
shows 383MB, what happened to the 1 MB... Remember that
the first 640KB is used by the OS to load dos and such,
hence 383MB.
Grizzly_80911
Emonster 600 Upgrade
Result
I ordered a used Coppermine based PIII 750 from Computer
Geeks. It came came today. It is a standard Slot 1 SECC2
750 Mhz Processor. It is Coppermine, 100 Mhz Bus.
Voltage would be in the 1.6 - 1.7 range (My major
concern). Well it works. Works great, in fact.
My Emonster has a Napoli-2A (CR4281 based) motherboard.
Fairly standard on Emonsters 550 & 600, OEM BIOS,
Since the Napoli-2 supports Coppermines the Emonster
should be able to be upgraded to a PIII 850. Because
Copper mines perform about 25% faster than Katmais at
the same speed the increase in performance my computer
should experience is about 66%. Several of the
benchmarks I have run bear this out.
jto1963
Successful Upgrade
Emonster 550 to 850
Per request the details of my circumstance: My Emonster
550 had an older bios. The version was Napoli2 1.0.4.
dated early 99' When I initially installed the 850 Mhz
Coppermine 100 FSB S.E.C.C. processor my boxes
performance was poor to say the least. The bios
recognized the 256 cache on the processor, but it showed
that the cache as disabled (with no option to enable
it). Also the bios reported the processor as operating
at 200Mhz. After reinstalling the original processor,
and doing some more research, I came to the conclusion
that I would risk flashing the AMI bios with a later
release. I would recommend that you install the new
processor before flashing your bios to see if your
current bios will recognize it. Only flash your bios
after seriously weighing the consequences!!! I used the
bios update found at the following link:
http://www.e4all.info/motherboards/napoli2_download.htm:
and followed the instructions for flashing the bios
found here:
http://www.tyan.com/support/html/how_to_flash.html
After the procedure was completed I installed the new
850mhz coppermine again and EUREKA!!! The bios
recognized the new processor's 256k cache and the
processor's speed of 850 mhz. A problem that I ran into
was the bios not being able to find the boot sector on
the hard drive and defaulting to booting from the floppy
drive.
I thought that this might be because of a mismatch
between the timing of the bios requesting the boot
sector from the hard drive and the time that my upgraded
7200 RPM hard drive needs to reach full speed. To fix
this I removed the floppy drive from the boot sequence,
and disabled the quikboot option in the bios. After that
everything worked, and I must say things move MUCH
faster. I also adjusted the bios to not show the Korean
post screen. My personal preference.
dskelto
ATI Radeon 7000 64Mb
Video Card
If you can't get your eMonster to boot up after
installing this video card, upgrade your bios to Version
1.13 found in the "Napoli-2 Download Section" at this
site.
Celeron Support
Looks like the Napoli-2 will support some Celerons on a slocket card; I just installed a 533Mhz (PPGA) and it
works like a champ.
TD25x
Upgraded from a TNT
Vanta 8mb to a Geforce2 mx 400 64mb SDRAM
07.21.02
Emonster 600
Napoli-2 Mobo - BIOS 1.13
256mb RAM
2 20gig Hard drives
DvD Rom
OS is Win XP Pro
The very first problem with the Geforce2 was the
drivers. In the quick guide it says
"IMPORTANT NOTE: If you have model number TNT2 100,
GeForce100, or Gefroce400 (my model) you do not need to
install a driver in windows XP"
for some reason the card did not do this which should
have keyed me into thinking the card was defective.
After that I load the drivers from the CD to run OpenGL
and Direct 3D and I random freezing during Half-Life,
Carmegeddon, and Hitman. The Video mode Direct 3D was
the most problematic, the computer froze after a few
seconds of game play, Opengl would usually freeze about
a half-hour to an hour in game. So I thought it was
driver problem and Installed nVidia's Detonator XP
drivers but ended up with the same exact problems. I
then called Best Data technical support and was asked if
the AGP version is 2.0 or higher.. The Emonster Napoli-2
is AGP 2x which I did not know at the time so I flashed
the bios up to 1.13 hoping to alleviate the problem. No
dice. So I called Tech support again and was asked if
the card has its own IRQ, mine did. Then they wondered
if the Motherboard Chipset wasn't compatible with the
video card which it was. At the end of the conversation
I was told that Geforce2 cards need at least 250w power
supply to function correctly.
After I hung up I promptly mounted a 250w power supply
on top of the case and plugged it in. Again the same
problems. I called tech support again and they told me
they couldn't find nothing else wrong with my system so
it must be a defective card. The next day I took the
card back to Fry's Electronics for an exchange, luckily
with no hassle. Oddly enough the new card was smaller
and had a fan on it and the first one didn't, I doubt
that was a problem though, so I installed it with the
250w power supply on and it ran flawlessly even under
all video modes and no drivers needed to be installed.
Changes I made are:
-Updated the BIOS
-Added a 250w Power Supply
If you do have problems follow these guidelines:
-Follow the Install instructions! They help.
-Make sure VGA Palette Snooping and/or Video cache RAM
is disabled.
-Make sure you have APG version 2x, the napoli 2 does,
and most will.
-Make sure you BIOS is compatible with the card, if not
upgrade the BIOS (use only as a last resort).
-Find out what company makes your Motherboard Chipset
and make sure it is compatible with the Video card,
updates are available.
-Make sure the Card has is on its own IRQ.
-Use a 250w or higher power supply if it freezes often.
-Emonster600 specific make sure that the "Primary
Display Adapter" in the CMOS is set to VGA, the default
is PCI. May or may not change anything.
-Emonster600 specific make sure "Allocate IRQ to PCI
VGA" is set to AUTO
-Windows XP specific If there are no Geforce tabs under
Display Properties>Settings>Advanced after installing
the card it may be defective.
Tips
-Under Display Properties>Settings>Advanced>Gefroce2
MX/MX 400>Additional Properties>OpenGL settings Turn off
Vertical Sync for better frame rates.
-Under Display Properties>Settings>Advanced>Monitor
Uncheck "Hide video modes the monitor cannot display"
For higher Screen resolutions. If you have problems
re-enable it. DO NOT set it to the highest Resolution!
-If the card comes with Benchmark software, try it, its
fun to watch.
If you have any questions about this upgrade, contact:
eaeo@cox.net
Voodoo 5 5500 + P3
1.0Ghz = EZ Upgrade
08.03.02
Looks like the Napoli-2
will support the old Voodoo 5 cards as well. I had
already upgraded the BIOS to version 1.13, removed the
old Vanta card and plugged in the Voodoo....booted right
up and then installed the drivers. I also added a Intel
Pentium III 1000/256/100 Slot 1 SECC2 CPU into Napoli-2
mobo. Didn't have to mess with any of the DIP switches
or jumpers. Simply removed old cpu installed new one and
booted up. Still using the OEM 120W PSU! No problems so
far.
TD25x
GeForce4 Upgrade!
09.15.02
Just put in a NVIDIA
Geforce4 Ti 4600 that seems to run superbly...knock on
wood........
rumandtonic
512Mb RAM
12.18.02
I had to send back
Kingston memory sticks a couple of times before I got it
right. The specific valueRAM part number is
KVR133X64C3Q/256. I know that its a CAS Latency 3, but
the most important part is that 'Q'. Get that part, and
it will definitely work on the eMonster and you will
have 512 MB Ram.
niknapr
1.4 Celeron in
Napoli-2!
02.09.03
I successfully use
Napoli-2 & Tualatin Celeron (with PowerLeap PL-iP3/T Ver2
).
Used with tuned BIOS (Ver1.13s base).
The experiment page
http://gyaian-web.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pchard/lab/napoli2/napoli2.htm
[This is a Japanese site, TD]
GYAIAN
Another PowerLeap
1.4Ghz PL-iP3/T Upgrade
04.05.03
I swapped out my Pentium
III 1000/256/100 Slot 1 SECC2 CPU for a Powerleap 1.4GHz
Celeron Slot 1 PL-IP3T. I flashed the BIOS using
napoli2_2.zip located in the Napoli-2 download section
BEFORE installing the adapter. Shut down, pulled out the
P3 1.0Ghz CPU and then installed the Powerleap adapter.
It fired right up and I verified clock speed was indeed
1.4Ghz with Sandra and WCPUID.
TD25x
512Mb Memory upgrade and
explanation
06.10.03
[Use]
Two 256MB SDRAM DIMM, PC100/133
double-sided (8 chips on each side,
aka 16x8), CAS latency 2, (aka CS2 or CL2) low density
(aka 32x64 configuration) memory modules; brand and
model number: Infineon HYB39S128800CT-7.
Just a word about "high
density" and "low density" in regards to memory modules"
"High density" and "low density" can refer to either the
module itself or the chips on the module. A high density
module means that it has more chips on the module than
usual. A double-sided module is usually "high density".
A high density chip is a chip that has more memory than
your average chip. What Napoli-2 mobo users should be
looking for is a high-density module (like 8 chips on
each side) with low-density chips. Higher-density chips
are cheaper (in quality? and cost), but only the newest
mobos can recognize them. When you see ads for modules
referencing "high density" or "low density" be sure you
know whether the ad is referring to the module itself or
the chips on it.
Finally, just a reminder, these modules I bought are
CL2. If you are going to overclock, now or in the
future, this is the type of module you want to get. The
CL3 are not really for overclocking. Anyway, I've got
512MB working on my eMonster 500a now, and with Windows
XP it's a great help.
observ8tor
Overclock using
CPUFSB
The pll-ic/clock
generator on the Napoli-2 is made by ICS and is model
9148-26.
enigmadeadsouls
Upgrading in Japan
04.18.04
In Japan, the
reconstruction BIOS of Napoli-2&2A was used and the user
who exchanged for Tualatin exceeded 80 persons only by
the report.
I experimented about the combination of Napoli-2&2A and
Tualatin Celeron between winter that possibilities
should be checked.
Test System
CPU Intel Celeron 1.4G(with PowerLeap PL-iP3/T)
Memory PC100 256MB x2
HDD Maxtor 54610H6 46.1G(ATA100 7200prm)
ATA EIO(InnoVISION) AP-1600 ATA133
FDD Mitsumi D353 2mode
DVD Panasonic CW-8572
S/C Onboard with Creative Sound Blaster16
LAN No Brand VIA VT86C100A
OS Windows2000SP4
API DirectX9.0b
DRIVER nVidia Detonator53.03
ATI Catalyst3.9
(ATI is not supporting AGP1.0 of RADEON9800PRO.Own
risk!)
Video Card
nVidia
(1) GAINWARD FX PowerPack! Ultra/1800XP
256MB(GeForce5950Ultra)
(2) Gainward FX PowerPack! Ultra/960TV/DVI
128MB(GeForce5700Ultra)
(3) MSI FX5600Ultra VTD128(GeForce5600UltraFC)
(4) MSI FX5200Ultra TD128(GeForce5200Ultra)
ATI
(5) PowerColor R98PRO-CDT-A256D 256MB(RADEON9800PRO)
(6) ATI RADEON9700PRO(RADEON9700PRO)
(7) TORICA(OEM) RADEON9500PRO(RADEON9500PRO)nVidia(Emu
rate)
(a) GeForce5700(5700Ultra Down Clock C425/M550MHz)
(b) GeForce5600Ultra128bit(FC-Model Down Clock
C350MHz/M700MHz)
(c) GeForce5600 128bit(FC-Model Down Clock
C325MHz/M550MHz)
(d) GeForce5200 128bit(5200Ultra Down Clock
C250MHz/M400MHz)
Result
1 Final Fantasy XI Bench-1(2 times measurement)
(1)3137>3122 (2)3153>3246 (3)3007>3078 (4)2905>2955
(5)3211>3206(6)3192>3190 (7)3180>3176
(a)3066>3121 (b)2946>2967 (c)2952>2954 (d)2905>2955
2-1 Final Fantasy XI Bench 2Low(2 times measurement)
(1)2531>2514(2)2557>2554 (3)2497>2471 (4)2424>2426
(5)2579>2564 (6)2550>2518 (7)2554>2519
(a)2588>2578 (b)2491>2471 (c)2475>2463 (d)2412>2418
2-2 Final Fantasy XI Bench 2High(2 times measurement)
(1)2304>2314 (2)2407>2397 (3)2257>2323 (4)2084>2091
(5)2467>2449 (6)2460>2446 (7)2388>2382
(a)2313>2307 (b)2167>2159 (c)2099>2087 (d)1919>1926
3 3Dmark2001SE330
(1)8337 (2)7864 (3)7315 (4)6411
(5)9098 (6)8921 (7)8220
(a)7175 (b)6927 (c)6528 (d)5828
4 3Dmark2003 340
(1)4802 (2)3162 (3)2628 (4)1674
(5)4816 (6)4283 (7)3222
(a)2340 (b)2378 (c)2120 (d)1379
5 AquaMark3
(1)G-4314 C-4279 T-28683
(2)G-3492 C-4228 T-24718
(3)G-2736 C-4230 T-20675
(4)G-1308 C-4307 T-11340
(5)G-3219 C-4356 T-23520
(6)G-3108 C-4219 T-22709
(7)G-2865 C-4279 T-21466
(a)G-2700 C-4231 T-20472
(b)G-2418 C-4237 T-18808
(c)G-2127 C-4235 T-16996
(d)G-1155 C-4305 T-10198
6 Unreal Tounament2003 DEMO
(1)F103.1 B37.9 (2)F104.7 B38.5 (3)F103.0 B38.0 (4)F94.1
B37.8
(5)F105.6 B38.6 (6)F106.0 B38.6 (7)F105.6 B38.7
(a)F99.6 B38.5 (b)F102.0 B37.9 (c)F99,0 B38.0 (d)F80.0
B37.8
7 Consideration
1) Other portions serve as a bottleneck and a high-end
model has them in a leveling-off state efficiently.
2) In GeForce5700(non Ultra) and all 5600 Series, there
is no difference not much.
3) When the performance of DirectX8 is compared, the
Radeon9800Pro is faster than GeForce5950Ultra a little.
4) As long as the game of DirectX8 correspondence was
actually played, the difference was seldom understood
above GeForce5600-Ultra(non FC). However, the distance
beyond anticipation may
be felt for 5600 series and 5200 series.
In Japan, GeForce5700Ultra is recommended fundamentally.
However, RADEON 9500PRO is recommended if acquisition is
possible.
Since 256MB model of GeForce5900XT was put on the
market, although it experiments after purchase, it is
expected that it is equivalent to RADEON 9700PRO.
Even now in Japan, there is popularity of RADEON 9500PRO
with good sufficient cost performance.
GYAIAN
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