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This section is dedicated to YOU, the ones who use these eMachines day in and day out, who go and find the latest drivers, look for the latest upgrades, who try to make their machine perform at its best. The following posts are comments, from end users, on what you have found out that has worked for you. Since these posts are end user contributions, use the info contained here at your own risk.
Graphic Drivers

"I wrote you the 7th of August about if I could overclock my E-machines and how could I increase the quantity of Video available for graphics. Something that brought my attention about the video was that when I first installed the last 128Mb directx reported 4.5Mb used for video. But 3 days after DirectX reported only 3.5MB. It seemed strange for me since I already had 3 used for video with 128MB. Besides in your web site it says that eTower 566i can reach 4MB for video. So I decided to look for video updates. E-machines doesn't offer an update so I went to Intel web site. I look a lot around until I finally found an update.
With this update I could make the video memory to reach 6.5Mb. The update is in the Developer section, which means it is not intended for PCs user if not for Pc makers, though the update is very easy to install since it is a executable file with auto installer. The file has around 4MB. The good point is that is a owner of e-machines with i810 chip wants to change the monitor, he will get the same graphics options. Instead updating, it allow to have higher resolutions. This update has as maximum resolution 1600x1200 with 256 colors and 1280x1024 with true color. Here is another advantage of the update: it adds true color quality, which isn't included in the eTower.
I tested the update in my PC (eTower with 265 MB Ram, the rest is the same from factory) and it run perfectly. I have a good performance gaining when playing video games, since I play a lot of them. This upgrade has DirectX 8.0 compatibility, so it is better to upgrade DirectX too. This upgrade should work in any machine (not only e-machines) with a motherboard using the graphics solution of Intel 810 chip, 810e, 815, 815e.
This link is for the upgrade that I have in my PC and which I tested:

http://appsr.intel.com/scripts-df/download.asp?url=/2904/eng/win9xe631.exe
This page is for users of win98 SE and for English and this upgrade is from where to find the latest graphics driver for i810, multi-language support and for different operative system:
http://appsr.intel.com/scripts-df/Product_Filter.asp?ProductID=178

Note: the multi-language support driver has about 2 MB more than for English. I recommend to try the second link to have the latest driver."


Disabling onboard video

You can disable the 810/810e chipset graphics this way.
1)Install your new video card in the PCI slot.
2)Boot to the bios
3)Set the new card as the primary graphics adapter. (this sets the onboard graphics as a secondary adapter for multi-monitor support.)
Now you can disable the onboard graphics in this manner:
1) Go to device manager in windows
2) Right click the icon for the Intel 810 graphics adapter.
3) click properties
4)un-check "exists in all hardware profiles"
5)Re-boot
6)Go back to Device manager and back into properties for the 810 display adapter.
7) Click the check box for "disabled in this hardware profile"
I got this info from the Intel site ( no luck looking for info at E for me ) and it worked without a hitch. If you do not follow up by disabling the adapter ( in device manager ), in this manner you get all kinds of conflicts, freezing etc. Hope this helps anyone trying to do this.
LM
 


633ids CPU upgrade to 800/850Mhz

I actually upgraded two Cognac (118461) based etower 633ids. The first one I upgraded from 633 to 800 Mhz. This was a fairly safe upgrade since the eTower 800 uses the Cognac+. When I went back to the store to get another 800 Mhz Celeron they were only selling 850 Mhz Celerons so I tried that one. That also worked . Voltage and Bus Speed are automatically determined by the chipset and BIOS. No other action was required.
 

jto1963


BIOS Update

12.18.01 

I finally found a working bios upgrade for the cognac mobo. HP uses the cognac board in several of their Pavillion series. Their bios updates can be found at:
http://www.hp.com/cgi-bin/cposupport/swindex.pl?p=hppavilion19286&l=en&c=BIOS.
I flashed the ver 3.03 bios and everything works good so far. 
It now recognizes the onboard sound again. The splash screen now shows "HP" instead of "E". The release notes show this as the "Initial release for Windows XP."
No Guarantees - USE WITH CAUTION.
 
km6ti

[This file can be found in the "Cognac Download" section]


Etower 566i overclocked

01.06.02 

I have Overclocked my machine using CPUCool.
I can O/C to 615mhz and run fine. At 632mhz the sound crackles when I use winamp.
At 700mhz the sound crackles all the time.
I used the PLL setting because the Congac MoBo is not listed.
PPL listed in the Mobo docs is 9250BF-10
PPL in CPUCool is listed as 9250-10a and 9250BF-10b
I used the A and B ver. and got the same results.
Anyway I have no heat problems at 615mhz.
I ran MechWarrior 4, FS2002, and Return to Castel Wolf. all at Full settings.
Still no heat problems.

AtomicFrawg


700irs CPU upgrade to P3 850Mhz

02.16.02

The cpu is an 850E @ 100 fsb as this board does not support 133 fsb due to the Intel 810 chipset. Only a 810E chipset supports 133 fsb. I suspected that the board would accept the cpu as most of my other socket 370 boards will take a 800 @ 100 fsb but I decided to try the 850. The vrm will set the correct voltage for any 66 or 100 fsb cpu. I don't know any reason why it wouldn't run a 900 or a 1.0 except I don't think they make any on the 100 bus. 
It runs good but the bios sees it as a 866 in the post screen. Also, the specs say this board will only support 256 mb of memory but I am running 384 right now and have had 512 in it with no problem. Another item about the 700 irs bios, the bios wizard gives this a manufacturer date of 07/05/00 and PhoenixBios 4.0 Release 6.0 .

twoferthree


566i2 CPU upgrade to Celeron 1.1Ghz

02.24.02

I recently purchased a Intel Celeron 1.1 Ghz 100 Mhz bus system processor (SL5XR 1.75V) to upgrade my 600is [Ahaheim-2]. I installed it and the new larger heatsink/fan powered up and my drives all check, but no video just a black screen...I decided to try something. My wife's computer is also eMachine 566i2 with a Cognac motherboard so I popped the 1.1 Ghz in it and it worked like a charm.
gma_papaj


Some more CPU upgrade/info

04.13.02

I just wanted to say that I too upgraded my 566i2 to a Celeron 1.1GHz. Thats a Coppermine Celeron 1.1 GHz with a 100 MHz FSB. If you plan on upgrading your 566i2 or Cognac motherboard based system to a faster Celeron, be sure to get the Celeron 1.10 GHz, not the 1.10A GHz as that's based off the Tualatin Pentium 3.

For those looking to overclock their 566i2 or Cognac boards, the PLL Type setting in CPUFSB and CPUCool is 9250-10A. I was able to get the Celeron 566 to 700 MHz and it ran 100% stable with no problems. 700MHz CPU, 82.7 MHz FSB, 41.3 MHz PCI Bus. I can get the Celeron 1.1GHz up to 1227 MHz, 112 MHz FSB, 37 MHz PCI Bus. CPUFSB reports the FSB as being 74.6 MHz, but if you use a program like Sandra you can see that its actually 112 MHz.

unusualsuspect00

Addendum:

07.14.02

I have an eTower 566i2 and I upgraded mine in March from a Celeron 566 to a Celeron 1.1 GHz and it runs perfectly stable. I can even leave it running 24/7 at 1.228 GHz using the stock Intel HSF without a single problem. That's a 112 MHz FSB. There's a couple of things here that need to be cleared up.

First, the Celeron 1.3 is a Tualatin Pentium 3 based Celeron. It has a new core, larger amount of cache, and uses "FCPGA2". What you need is a Coppermine 128 Celeron. Those range in speed from 533 MHz (packaged as a Celeron 533A) to 1.1 GHz. Its easy to tell the difference between the Coppermine and Tualatin Celerons. The Tualatin Celerons at 1 GHz and 1.1 GHz are marked on the box as "1.0A GHz" and "1.10A GHz" where the Coppermine Celerons are just "1.0 GHz" and "1.10 GHz". Also, the Coppermine Celerons have only 128k L2 cache and the Tualatin Celerons have 256k, both also have that information displayed on the box. All of this information can be found on the chips as well. If you get a Coppermine Celeron 1.1 GHz it should work flawless unless the chip is DOA. When you're ordering/shopping just be sure to look for a "1.1" or "1.10" GHz speed rating, no "A" after the speed, 1.75 core voltage, maybe the word or words "Coppermine 128" in the description and 128k of L2 cache. If the processor you want to buy meets those specifications, then its the right one.
Another thing, don't worry about the voltage, multiplier and FSB settings. The i810 chipset that is used on the Cognac motherboards is programmed to recognize and automatically set all of that. When I installed my processor it automatically set the voltage to 1.75 volts, changed the multiplier to 11 and raised the FSB to 100 MHz.


Over-clocked Cognac

07.13.02

I have a 633ids emachines that I have successfully over-clocked to 688.xx. I experience static in audio at 707; but the processor can be clocked in at 790 before it fails at 841. Just to let you know I did this using CPUCOOL. I have also upgraded to 256 RAM and looking for a sound card that will support over-clocking to the 790 MHZ range and a video card to support the same.

Gotfed


Another Successful CPU Upgrade

07.13.02

I have a 566i2 with the same Congnac MOBO that you have and I put A Celeron 1.1ghz in about 4 months ago and have had no problems with it since!!!! Just make sure you get a FCPGA processor and not the newer FCPGA2 processor as earlier stated it has a different cache and WILL NOT WORK. And yes my new one does run at 100 mhz FSB just fine. I will say that the heat-sink and fan that came with mine was a rather tight fit but it works just fine.

btrspartan


Cognac Mobo supports 384 MB Ram

08.31.02

I got two PC133's 256 and 128. I guess they run at PC100 speed but doubling my memory to 384, I see a good performance increase for certain games like Counter-Strike.

oof_ow


700irs up to 1Ghz

09.17.02

I just upgraded my 700irs to 1Ghz [Celeron] with no problems (Win ME). also upgraded ram from 192 to 383 at the same time. there is a noticeable increase in speed & burning cd's faster. I bought my processor from Spartan Technologies for $69 + 11 S&H = $80. that includes the heat sink & fan. make sure it is the Coppermine 128k & not the Tualatin 256k which I have read won't work.

gdivens51


Cognac Tulatin upgrade possible with BIOS upgrade

Have just updated BIOS to v3.07 (from HP, FresnoCognac_307.exe). [This file can be found in the "Cognac Download" section] and installed 1 GHz Coppermine Celeron. All working great. Strange thing is that the Relnotes.txt file that comes with the BIOS update states that from v3.03 that the BIOS supports Tulatin processors! Sandra reports processors to 1.6 GHz or more supported, although in practice you'll only get to 1.4.

sledge2345


633id running P-3 1.1Ghz & 512Mb RAM

10.16.02

I'd like to report the successful upgrade of my emachines 633id system (cognac motherboard). I have managed to upgrade the CPU from a 633Mhz celeron processor to a Pentium III 1.1 Ghz 100Mhz FSB (which I happened to find on Ebay). The markings on it are as follows: Costa Rica, 1100/256/100/1.75V SL5QW. I guess that means a 1100 Mhz chip with a 256K L2 cache, 100 Mhz FSB , 1.75V voltage rating, and S-Spec number SL5QW. Also my system now has 512 MB of PC100 (16 chip) [ DOUBLE-SIDED] memory compared to the "maximum allowable" figure of 256MB and it really rocks. I'm actually amazed that my first clumsy attempt at tinkering with my hardware has been such a huge success!!!

pc_dude


633ids RAM Upgrade to 512Mb

11.03.02

I have 2 Muskin 133mhz 256mb sticks (total 512 mb) in:


1) a 633ids with Emachines BIOS 2.01 (06/26/2001) running WIN98SE with
the original INTEL 633mhz CPU
2) a 633ids with HP BIOS 3.07 (09/17/2001) running WIN XP HOME with
INTEL 1.0ghz CPU

It appears that the 256mb sticks must be DOUBLE-SIDED (8 chips on each side). They can be cas 2 or cas 3. They can be 133mhz.The MUSHKIN 256mb sticks are available directly from MUSHKIN.COM for $40 apiece.

cjkeenan


633id upgrade to Celeron 1.10 GHz

11.23.02

I have a 633ID with the Cognac MB. I just installed the retail 1.1GHZ (SL5XR) with Intel HS&Fan. I was very lucky to get that HS in there. It is twice the size as the one on the 633MHZ. I can get one note card between the backside of the Parallel Port and the HS. At first I didn't think it was going to fit. But if Intel is putting in this large HS&Fan it probably needs the cooling. My BIOS report 1000MHZ CPU at start-up. WCPUID reports I'm running at 1096.66MHZ @ 99.70MHZ FSB. I'm not sure why the FSB is only 99.70 it might be the memory. I still haven't run Sandra yet but system does seem to be faster and stable. I didn't upgrade my BIOS. My MB has BIOS v1.01.

lubner10


Cognac BIOS Notes and WinXP

12.29.02

I had just flashed HP's BIOS update, 3.03 I believe was the version, and it works beautifully with my cognac mobo, adding a bunch of new features to my BIOS setup prog, including the direct ability to disable the AC'97 audio. I highly recommend it as an update.
A few words though: In order to get My WinXP pro to load, I had to set the large disc access mode from DOS, to OTHER in the BIOS setup, and I only know that it works error free on a emachine 633ids (cognac mobo), maybe if people could send back if it was a success, if so, which mobo and/or emachines model number, and which update.
Also, I could finally prevent the pic from loading in this update, allowing the diagnostic POST screen all the way through boot-up.

BP


More 633id Upgrades


01.02.03

I have just added a 256 mb DIMM and a Celeron 1.1 GHZ Coppermine CPU to my 633id.  I have a few comments about the upgrade:
 
1. The CPU can be purchased at Compuvest.com
 
2. Compatible double sided 256 mb 133mhz DIMMS are made by Centon [32x64 168 pin double sided pc133 DIMM with 16 memory chips (8 per side).]
 
3. I would try the HP Bios instead of the Trigem Bios (Hopefully you won't need either).  With the Trigem I had to re-install my OS,  My comm ports did not install, and the power light on the front did not work.  Also I had to change the Large Disk Access mode to Other from DOS.  I assume this is because I have an NTFS drive instead of a FAT32.  Version 3.07 from HP works great and I didn't have to change any of the defaults (I reflashed it because of the TRIGEM BIOS problems).  It took me awhile to figure out what happened after flashing the TRIGEM BIOS.  I was having two problems.  One was the CPU was overheating and the other was an OS problem.  Be very careful with the Trigem bios.  It will not work with memory managers present, but almost every boot disk I found or made had something like HIMEM present. If HIMEM is deleted, the system doesn't boot properly. HP's version 3.07 will work just fine if copied to a boot floppy created in Windows XP.  This was important as I have an NTFS drive.

JM


Another Over-clocked Cognac

01.23.03

I have a Cognac motherboard with a 700 Celeron processor and I have used CPUFSB to over-clock it to 928MHZ!!! and it is running stable at 40 degrees Celsius and runs like a new one with no extra cost :) I did
have to put a SoundBlaster sound card I had here at the house in it as the onboard sound wouldn't work with it over-clocked that far but after I put the sound card in it work just fine :)

sandm1997


Cognac CPU & RAM Upgrade

I'd like to report the successful upgrade of my emachines 633id system (cognac motherboard). I have managed to upgrade the CPU from a 633Mhz Celeron processor to a Pentium III 1.1 Ghz. The markings on it are as follows: Costa Rica, 1100/256/100/1.75V SL5QW (which I happened to find on Ebay). Also my system now has 512 MB of PC100 (16 chip) memory compared to the "maximum allowable" figure of 256MB and it really rocks.

pc_dude
 


Another Cognac CPU Upgrade (HP)

10.21.05
 

Here is my Star Log Stardate Today for upgrading my HP-763XE that uses the same Cognac as the E-Monsters, running a Celery 700Mhz FC-PGA.
 
I purchased a brand-spanking new sSpec- SL5XU Celery 1.1GHz Coppermine 128/100/1.75V FC-PGA processor from a very nice place: Starmicro.com for only $27.00 (Free Shipping!!)
 
After it came in the mail yesterday, I popped the CPU in, and........nothing. The PC would freeze up AFTER boot, past the Bios, or when navigating the Bios. I wiped the CMOS, popped in the old 700 steam-driven CPU, and switched over my PCI Bus to use Bios Detection instead of Hardware, and popped in the Celery 1.1GHz. I also pulled my GeForce 4 MX-420 PCI Video card just in case. End result? I will be darned, it worked.
 
However, it was molasses slow (due to explanation below, and having set PCI Bus to Bios detection). After running PC Wizard 2005, and quadruple checking any oddities AGAIN to see if I missed anything (drivers, etc.), I noticed the RAM stick in Slot 1 was forcing the Cognac to try to push BOTH RAM sticks at 125MHz (though technically impossible due to the 66Mhz FSB, that did NOT mean it didn't TRY to run that fast, OR set the MO-BO to it). I have a total of 256MB of SUPPOSEDLY PC 133/100. What I ACTUALLY have is one stick of 128MB of PC100, and one stick of 128MB of PC133/100 that was running at 125MHz. That said, I swapped the sticks in the slots, putting the PC100MHz in Slot 1(forcing MO-BO to 100MHz), everything picked right up, and the old girl is running just fine and stable(after also switching the PCI Bus back to Hardware detection from Bios).
 
Here is the rundown on my hardware as of right now:
HP 763XE (does apply to e-Monsters, same Motherboards)
Trigem Cognac Rev. F, Slot 372, FC-PGA, Pheonix Bios (updated to HP V.3.07)
i810 Chipset, 82801AA (ICH) PCI Bridge (810-DC100 updated to version 6.7 drivers)
(Don't forget the Intel Application Accelerator, that thing rocks on my system)
I updated ALL drivers that I could BEFORE I even attempted to upgrade physically.
Mine is FC-PGA ONLY as far as I can tell (not the dual FC/PPGA I have heard about), so the Celery 1.1GHz went in with NO additives (except drivers), and the Cognac automatically switched over both FSB and Core Voltage.
 
Thanks for the E-monster site, I could NOT have done it without that page.

Supernuker74

 

 

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